The rules of casting two spells in a round in D&D - Rules Lawyer

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Let's face it, we all know that person, right? Hopefully the DM sees it coming and gently reminds them that the DM can override any rule. If you guys wanna see us play D&D for real, we have a campaign over on this other channel! ^^^

Maand geleden
Arthur Pontoglio
Arthur Pontoglio

For the sake of my friends and my own stopped playing RPGs, cause I'm the lawyer of my group of friends. If you are like that pls try to think about it, is it really worth it to frustrate your group and your self? For was no, for every time I've did it i felt like i was an obstacle to the fun time we were having. (Observation: my English is bad, but I wish you understood my message)

14 dagen geleden
Jordan B
Jordan B

A bit where the rules people tried to make thing simpler and just made things messier.

20 dagen geleden
GruppeSechs
GruppeSechs

@Dargoneth If you don't follow the rules, why even play that game! Might as well make up your own game. It'd be like watching a series and skipping half a season. MADNESS.

22 dagen geleden
Silicon Player
Silicon Player

@ioasis yumich First off, the DM in this video never said he was overriding the rules. Second, as was said, the rules *are* there for a reason. Multiple reasons, in fact. Balance, fairness, immersion, A SENSE OF ORDER... Third, I'm not sure anyone has argued, ever, that a DM is bound by the rules as written (or intended) if he wants different rules instead. But when the rules are simply not understood, it's more than appropriate for the "rules lawyer" to step in and help to keep the game from devolving into...........a character just swinging his axe over and over again killing enemy after enemy after enemy in "real time" because he doesn't like "turn based" D&D (see the next-most-recent VLDL D&D video).......or other utter chaos. Or even minor chaos. Yeah, the DM gets to decide if he's going to allow a particular rule to be ignored/modified. But the players should be able to expect the rules, including house rules, to be understood and consistent. When a question of what the rules are comes up, the answer should be decided - and then maintained. This video puts the player who speaks up about the rules into the role of a higher-than-thou know-it-all whose interjection is ruining the flow of the game (which, really, is ruined by the ignorance of the other player(s) and DM, unless, of course, they actually know the rules and have decided a house rule, or just circumstance, overrides them). This is inferiority-complex nonsense. Just because someone speaks with confidence and corrects your ignorance, does not mean that the speaker's motivation is self-aggrandizement; nor should self-confidence *ever* be criticized. Reverse the roles here. Have the male player be the one attempting to skirt the rules, and the female the one stepping in to point out the violation. The reaction of much of the community to this video would be that it's sexist as she's portrayed as a "bossy" b*. Player input, whether prompted or not, whether due to disagreement or to inform, should be welcomed, not resented. Because both the players and the DM have a stake in the game being enjoyable. I have absolutely no problem with what Rowan is doing here regarding the rules, right up until the end when it goes overboard with "you already cast shillelagh ... put down your weapon". Those are of course just meant to make the rules lawyer look particularly bad.

23 dagen geleden
ioasis yumich
ioasis yumich

@Jacob S you're right the rules ARE there for a reason. And the first rule is literally that the DM has the final say on any ruling in the book.

23 dagen geleden
IggyTthunders
IggyTthunders

Dm: *watches pc's quibble* roll a d20 *druid rolls* Nat 20 She can do both. Case closed. Rules lawyer: b-but teh roolz--- Dm: in real life there's this thing called adrenaline, which allows us to be stronger and faster in times of mortal duress. She rolled a nat 20 and the dice impartially declared her action valid. Stop being a pedantic knob.

Dag geleden
01of10
01of10

Rules lawyering is one thing, though it is only the tip of the iceberg. Those adversaries of rules lawyering may, given they are of firm mind and warmth of heart, become known and well versed in the art of Rule-Fu. And what a sight it is to behold, seeing an Rule-Fu fighter teaching his fellow players AND the DM in the ways of how to play the fucking game. Majestic creatures, really.

3 dagen geleden
Little Mac
Little Mac

This is bloody hilarious ahhaahahaaha

4 dagen geleden
Talus Xelen
Talus Xelen

Mr. Gambini, that is a lucid, well thought-out, intelligent objection. Vinny Gambini: Thank you. Judge Chamberlain Haller: Overruled ...

4 dagen geleden
weekendrailroader
weekendrailroader

"If you want to wear a thousand Viva logos, we've got you covered". Indeed. Quite literally. In Viva Logos.

4 dagen geleden
RamblinRick
RamblinRick

Wait, what? Britt is back? I thought she moved away a few years ago to the hinterlands, never to be seen again. I thought I saw her in another recent video. And, here she is again (0:52). Is she back temporarily or permanently? sidebar: her Epic NPC Man video, "Scammer", where sher scams Adam out of all his primo gear and loot, is forever my favorite performance.

4 dagen geleden
Jacob Graemoor
Jacob Graemoor

Following the rules does not make more fun.

4 dagen geleden
WilburForce
WilburForce

I only just realized Rowan cared so much about the rules so that the Dwarf would die.

5 dagen geleden
matt Conley
matt Conley

Rowan is best rules lawyer. PLEASE make an ep where you make him distinguish the difference between rage, frenzy, and mindless rage.

5 dagen geleden
Zwei
Zwei

If someone actually did this in my games, player pvp would be off the table and this man would end up dead through mysterious means.

6 dagen geleden
PhirenFayt
PhirenFayt

i see your rule Rowan and raise you one Rule 0, the Gm makes the rules, not a player. as Rule 0 overrides all rules after it we must turn to the judge for a verdict.

6 dagen geleden
Jorge Zazza
Jorge Zazza

However, if I had been the defense, I would have argued according to the general principles of law thats says... "who can do the most, can do the least". Ergo, if one can, in conjunction with another spell, cast a 1 Action cantrip, one can undoubtedly cast a 1 Bonus Action, since "bonus" refers to an action shorter than normal.

7 dagen geleden
cymond
cymond

That makes perfect sense. It also makes sense to slow down an action. Yeah, maybe you can do something as an action, but you should be able to do it as a full-round action if you want. (Are full-round actions ATM a thing in 5e?)

2 dagen geleden
Belio Trednar
Belio Trednar

Rowan knows that the employees have to pick up the keys if they told them to do so. : D I think Rowan is the perfect cast for the Rules Lawyer

7 dagen geleden
Krishna Dharma
Krishna Dharma

"Asshole rules lawyer" 😂

8 dagen geleden
Brian Ohear
Brian Ohear

Seems like these guys could benefit from a gem box. To bad this isn't ff6

8 dagen geleden
Gary Higginson
Gary Higginson

The STFU I am the DM rule always applied in my games if I was the DM, simply because I had read the rules, and have a photographic memory. Saved a shed load of time. Although some of the rules let's face it were a bit stupid. I've seen many people perform hundreds of actions in a time-space deemed a turn, mostly involving finger gestures that are not really appropriate to relay here, but they involved the middle finger a lot; so if they can do that and magic relies on words and finger gestures some people aught to be able to do it faster than others, if they have the dexterity and intelligence. True dat surely Magic Users get better at performing spells over time as wel,l so it becomes second nature, and shit I am boring myself now.

8 dagen geleden
Zuzu
Zuzu

Oh god, the switching of characters immediately when one is dead is funny asf

10 dagen geleden
Joaquim Eugênio Fernandes de Lima
Joaquim Eugênio Fernandes de Lima

No James Spader on Boston Legal, but I would still hire Rowan to my lawyer...

11 dagen geleden
Nick Arnold
Nick Arnold

I love the addition of the two Hollows, nice little nod to Dark Souls

11 dagen geleden
DarksideChaotix
DarksideChaotix

Fine. I'm just going to hit Rowan with my great axe. Seven times. What, who said in game?

11 dagen geleden
LePhantome
LePhantome

but what do you do when the DM IS the rules lawyer, but fudges the rules for himself anyways 😭😭😭bc our party was nearly wiped by an adult ice dragon that he allowed to take 6 different actions/attacks in one turn

12 dagen geleden
IggyTthunders
IggyTthunders

DM: To quote Karl Urban's 'Dredd', the Playbook isn't the law... *I am the law.* To quote Sylvester Stalone's 'Judge Dredd', *I AM THE LAWR!*

13 dagen geleden
video games
video games

hilarious

13 dagen geleden
Jack Cade
Jack Cade

Yeah, I've played with one of these, too MANY times. NEVER play with this person more than once. Let them find each other and spend their time debating rules that are not the point of the game.

14 dagen geleden
Cody Grimes
Cody Grimes

Rowan needs to be a lawyer

15 dagen geleden
Your Quirk
Your Quirk

Chilal..ay.. is the best character ever XD

15 dagen geleden
Lee Breeden
Lee Breeden

that guy would NEVER come back to my table.

15 dagen geleden
YrocFrick
YrocFrick

that dwarf cosplay is on point

15 dagen geleden
CARL X GAMING
CARL X GAMING

Can't wait to see the Rules Lawyer's biggest nemesis, "The Rules Exploiter".

16 dagen geleden
Tuscani J
Tuscani J

A family member on the jury?! I call for a mistrial, indeed!

17 dagen geleden
Micah Goodwin
Micah Goodwin

We've kicked people for less.

17 dagen geleden
XIIMOONIIX moon
XIIMOONIIX moon

Best death iv ever seen

17 dagen geleden
Point Blank
Point Blank

I don't mind this guy. The game has rules or else it's just playing pretend with your buddies.

18 dagen geleden
M V
M V

Hargrim is like Kenny, it never dies. I actually believe, he killed 2 dragons and a lich king at lvl 1. All of them asked him to finish them off as they could no longer stand him returning over and over telling his story every time. He is actually the strongest character I have ever seen.

18 dagen geleden
Bruno Bauer
Bruno Bauer

I like the sheep on his head : )

19 dagen geleden
HalasterBlackmantle
HalasterBlackmantle

Wait, *this* is how shillelagh is supposed to be pronounced?

19 dagen geleden
Nocturnal Rites
Nocturnal Rites

Rules lawyers and power gamers...the two ingredients to utterly ruin any good D&D game. Blergh. That said, this was, of course, hilarious. :)

19 dagen geleden
Spaz lagger2000
Spaz lagger2000

Isn’t DnD suppose to be fun and an open game?

19 dagen geleden
christopher crafte
christopher crafte

the thing that's funny to me is I get that hes supposed to be the bad guy here, and to be fair he is explaining it in an annoying way, but hes right to explain this because using a flame blade and cure wounds is incredibly strong its pretty much just a balance thing with the leveled spell limit. I'm sure someone will tell me "your part of the problem" but knowing the rules can help you.

20 dagen geleden
zvxcvxcz
zvxcvxcz

Objection! A bonus action IS an action! ... and as any experienced rules lawyer knows, it is always the DM's fault, as rule #1 is that the DM is always right. You can object, you can lobby, you can lawyer, but the buck stops with the DM.

20 dagen geleden
Reece Speight
Reece Speight

Loving the ‘kenny theme’ with Targrim, hargrim etc

20 dagen geleden
Nathanial Maestri
Nathanial Maestri

My first character was Theren 😂

20 dagen geleden
Cole Riedel
Cole Riedel

At my table, as long as 1 is an action and 1 is a bonus action, perfectly fine

21 dag geleden
Lucas BC
Lucas BC

I actually went to check if the stuff he quoted was true on my Players Handbook and I'll be damned Rowan was right all the time.

21 dag geleden
Celtic Batman
Celtic Batman

His name is RANDY in this part of the world, and all doth know the evil he doth convey to tables throughout the realms. Randy, you know I am talking about YOU man.

21 dag geleden
VP Perf
VP Perf

Really need a rules lawyer for when someone in your party jumps off an airship at the first chance possible… for no reason other than they learned an NPC’s job is solely to catch barbarians who jump off the airship…

22 dagen geleden
Monmaker
Monmaker

Hide behind the pile of my dead identical brothers!

22 dagen geleden
Arclight 1988
Arclight 1988

DM handbook actually says to cheat, so DM can override the rules lawyer with God says So!

22 dagen geleden
em m ⚜
em m ⚜

I like how the dude keeps dying only to have his identical twin brothers carry on his legacy.

23 dagen geleden
Mearlyn Ambrosius
Mearlyn Ambrosius

I mean she tried to cast in the same turn. Clear case

23 dagen geleden
Myrthe Meerman
Myrthe Meerman

I don't play D&D myself, but if I did and friendly fire is a thing, I would decorate Rowan with arrows, swords and a pet wolf

23 dagen geleden
U. Asriel
U. Asriel

yeah, that player is gonna get GANKED and/or kicked out of the group soon. It's one thing to remind folks "yeah, Rules-as-Written you shouldn't be able to do that" to help other folks understand the rules. It's quite another to do that when one of your fellow PCs is rolling death saves. SCREW THAT GUY. Thank the Gods dwarves reproduce in litters in this setting.

24 dagen geleden
Useless People
Useless People

when I watch this video, all my family members look at me because of the sigh at the beginning of the video

24 dagen geleden
Shoddy Peasant
Shoddy Peasant

hear! hear!

24 dagen geleden
Jeremy
Jeremy

ahhh yes, the life of a lvl 1 goblin wizard

24 dagen geleden
Reubenhater
Reubenhater

wait, what? Cure wounds is an action and shillilagh is a bonus action and a cantrip. It should be fine, right? Or is the joke going over my head?

24 dagen geleden
Reubenhater
Reubenhater

@Silicon Player Huh, i didn't know that. I guess most dms just ignore that part of the rule.

21 dag geleden
Silicon Player
Silicon Player

The rule is, the action must be the cantrip and the bonus action must be the spell, or only one spell is allowed.

21 dag geleden
Gareth Keenan
Gareth Keenan

Please do a gag on being chaotic stupid.

24 dagen geleden
Drake Kay
Drake Kay

Fargram, Targram, and Now Hargram!! :D HAA HAA HAHAH

24 dagen geleden
The instant noodle
The instant noodle

There's never a chill Dungeon Master when you need one...

24 dagen geleden
Blue Fox
Blue Fox

Well I'm the dm so I say he can cast two spells and you take 10 damage for being a prick.

24 dagen geleden
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24 dagen geleden
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24 dagen geleden
alexander feoktistov
alexander feoktistov

this is why you have healing word. duh

24 dagen geleden
A Skeleton
A Skeleton

Rowan: “I am the law!”

24 dagen geleden
Sage2000
Sage2000

Thr judge should have been Alan. 😬

25 dagen geleden
mechREV
mechREV

page 69 ;)

25 dagen geleden
My Gorilla
My Gorilla

Fuck you Rowan! Don't tell me what to do lol

25 dagen geleden
David Stuck
David Stuck

ha this reminded me when da boys and i used to play magic the gathering

25 dagen geleden
Darrian Yates
Darrian Yates

Rowan solved this faster than Phoenix Wright.

25 dagen geleden
TheEthiopian1987
TheEthiopian1987

But I am already subscribed, how do I hit the button again?

25 dagen geleden
Brad Le
Brad Le

Makes me remember my first dnd game. I played an ex divorce attorney dragonborn and my character was lawful neutral.

25 dagen geleden
Doran Conall
Doran Conall

Targram...no great loss....Hargram...this never ends

25 dagen geleden
camwyn256
camwyn256

The Dungeon Master’s guide states the DM has final say and can override any rules. I believe the Player’s Handbook says this as well. At least it did back in 2nd and 3rd edition

26 dagen geleden
russeshe001
russeshe001

Hey, the group can change the rules if it wants. The group can ignore rules as much as the DM allows! As long as *everybody* can play with the same rules, that's what matters. And if it turns out the DM regrets allowing it later, well... A little 'I told you so' might be warranted. If not, all's the better! Signed, someone very tired of trying to help and getting a stigma for it.

26 dagen geleden
Rei Guth
Rei Guth

Thrilled those page numbers and quotes are real.

26 dagen geleden
Teymur Azimov
Teymur Azimov

I just imagine Alan as the DM sitting at the end of the table and waiting for Rowan's rant to end.

26 dagen geleden
Constantine Fetter
Constantine Fetter

after several episodes we should compile byron Tagrim, Fargrim..... Zagrim deaths :D

27 dagen geleden
Xsvrrx Gaming
Xsvrrx Gaming

if i hit the sub button i according to dnd rulles i would unsub- so i refused this action.

27 dagen geleden
TimeFreak
TimeFreak

You can use bonus actions as regular actions. Think of it as downgrading a bonus action which is supposed to be quick to a much slower regular action.

27 dagen geleden
Post Apocalyptic News Radio
Post Apocalyptic News Radio

That's a PC that would get murdered real quick.

27 dagen geleden
DarkanRacso
DarkanRacso

Does anyone know the name of the song that plays 2:00 onwards? Thanks in advance!

27 dagen geleden
garronn
garronn

Funny enough the only "rules lawyering" that Rowan did was the bit at the end with the half orc not being allowed to change her mind on the spell she was going to cast, and the bit with the staff holding.

27 dagen geleden
Fiddle Fan
Fiddle Fan

The rule that you can't take a Bonus Action as your Action is nonsensical. Of course, it wouldn't have changed this situation, but I'm just saying--it's idiotic and overly mechanical.

27 dagen geleden
AR G
AR G

Falkrim: the new Kenny.

28 dagen geleden
Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

I just found these videos and they are amazing!!! Like and subscribe.

28 dagen geleden
Yami Karasu
Yami Karasu

If this was a tv show i would love to join and die while people are arguing from left to right

28 dagen geleden
Yami Karasu
Yami Karasu

Best channel i found since the very beginning of time

28 dagen geleden
Blackviking Price
Blackviking Price

If I'd been playing I think Rowan would've died halfway through the video. But that's just me :P

28 dagen geleden
John Smith
John Smith

If I follow your Viva La Dirt League rules and hit the subscribe button then I would be unsubscribed. As I am already subscribed. I do not understand why you would want me to subscribe for one video then unsubscribe for the next video. Endless madness!!! MADNESS!!!!

28 dagen geleden
DarkSide Blues
DarkSide Blues

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28 dagen geleden
Pdan4
Pdan4

When you realize this was all because Rowan wanted Targrim to die.

28 dagen geleden
Lee Breeden
Lee Breeden

when you realize Rowan wants everyone else to die, so he gets all the loot.

15 dagen geleden
elrynon
elrynon

This seems oddly familiar......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60hjBFjJOKc&list=PL6-7feKhsltRncm6kow_YIVT-SEjTNVYE&index=11

28 dagen geleden
KittenyKat
KittenyKat

In no game I've ever played or ever would want to play would you not be allowed to change your mind about what you're doing in your own turn before your turn ends. Rules lawyer boy trying to tell me otherwise would end up tasting his underwear before the night ended. XD

28 dagen geleden
Gerniaz
Gerniaz

Can't you sacrifice an action to be used as a bonus action thus taking two bonus actions on the same turn? Thus the bonus action had the cast time of an action.

28 dagen geleden
Mira Rift
Mira Rift

You have to remember the DM is has the final say.

28 dagen geleden
Kencussion
Kencussion

One rule I always hated was how dual-wielding fighters work in 5e.... at level 20 with Action Surge, they can use their primary weapon up to 8 times in a single turn - but can still only use their offhand weapon once (as a bonus action)! WTF!?

28 dagen geleden

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